I am curious to see how this topic progresses. It is interesting that some of the normal outspoken bloggers are silent. I guess they are curious as well.
The strong suspicion on the part of us on the receiving end of these e-mails is that there was some serious winking and nodding - and even some encouragement of Fec - going on behind the scenes (by some of those "more familiar" bloggers).
Fec's been played like a violin.
Now that things have gone as far as they have, what are some of these people going to say?
Based on the past....others will say that both you and Fec have responsibility would be my guess.
They would be right that both of you can get pretty straightforward. The difference is that apparently Fec caused some genuine fear. If someone sent me an email with my address in the subject bar I would contact the police quickly. Others may disagree which I could care less about their opinion on matters like this.
I hope that one day folks in the blogging world will tone back some of the nastiness and express their opinion with the simple ability to agree to disagree. Most of these same folks manage to be respectful and actually pleasant if in a face to face setting. (including Fec) It is when they are safely behind a keyboard that they choose to be obnoxious and rude.
Others can disagree but I simply do not find it entertaining to read insults directed at me or others. I try to be friendly and respectful to others and expect the same.
Some or this reminds me of the middle school bully that picks on the easy target and others side with the bully by laughing and encouraging the crappy behavior mainly because they are relieved not to be the victim. The same answer then as now...the bully can kiss my a$$.
I think if there was a clear victim in this case, there might be more noise on the blogs.
The fact is that both participants have a history of lashing out at anyone who disagrees with them, and the exchange that led to the present circumstances appears to have occurred with the willing participation of both parties.
In fact, one of the participants is STILL obsessing over it.
I would have expected more local noise about this for the reasons you state, Marshall, but I suspect also that some are smarter than me and realize that any mention of the topic is likely to result in a slew of comments from at least one participant that is predictable and tiresome and they don't want their forums to be used as another venue for the matter to continue. I also think that other bloggers probably think both parties are at fault to a large degree.
I blogged on it because I think it was a milestone in local blogging and I could not ignore the spectacle of how it escalated. I think that does have some value, and I suspect some of the "bigger names" may offer their input very shortly. The end result may be that both participants get banned from commenting on any blogs if only for the purpose of preventing such occurrences in the future.
The exchange simply rolled over into two many blogs and I for one have decided not to allow my blog to be used for that purpose.
No problem, MeB. I've been on-the-road alot myself this weekend.
Hi Spag, "one of the participants" here. I see you noticed that somebody else was commenting.
Spare us the sanctimony. You put up a post and expressed your uninformed opinion.
You're miffed because "one of the participants" isn't allowing the empty hot-air to linger in the air un-challenged.
You're the lawyer in this bunch and you (of all people) should know that it's best to wait until you know all the facts before you comment.
And you don't know them.
I wonder how you would react if what was done to me had been done to you?
I expect there are several people in the GSO blogosphere with a HUGE vested interest in portraying this thing as just a silly "blog-war" between two "crazies" . . . as opposed to a crime perpetrated by one blogger on other bloggers.
You'll notice the plural.
The exchange rolled over onto Joe Guarino's blog because I had the presence of mind to BLOG THE CRIME AS IT WAS HAPPENING. Real time.
You also have a CONFESSION online by the perpetrator. But don't let a little thing like FACTS get in your way.
Sam, Thanks for carrying this topic to your blog as I agree it has the potential of being important.
Some have said that folks need thicker skin. I enjoy a heated and spirited debate as much as anyone.
What do the insults bring to the topic? Humor for some I guess....different strokes....but where is the line or where should the line be. Has the line been crossed this time? I have no idea but am interested in the outcome as it may impact how blogging moves forward.
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This topic has progressed to the police.
What Fec did is illegal.
The silence IS deafening. You're not the only one to notice.
I am not surprised that folks are not commenting here as my blog is not read much.
It does surprise me that this topic is not being covered by some of the other more familiar blogs.
The topic is interesting and can have an impact on blogging.
My personal opinion is that people should be responsible behind their keyboard as when face to face.
Well, my traffic is WAY up.
The strong suspicion on the part of us on the receiving end of these e-mails is that there was some serious winking and nodding - and even some encouragement of Fec - going on behind the scenes (by some of those "more familiar" bloggers).
Fec's been played like a violin.
Now that things have gone as far as they have, what are some of these people going to say?
Based on the past....others will say that both you and Fec have responsibility would be my guess.
They would be right that both of you can get pretty straightforward. The difference is that apparently Fec caused some genuine fear. If someone sent me an email with my address in the subject bar I would contact the police quickly. Others may disagree which I could care less about their opinion on matters like this.
I hope that one day folks in the blogging world will tone back some of the nastiness and express their opinion with the simple ability to agree to disagree. Most of these same folks manage to be respectful and actually pleasant if in a face to face setting. (including Fec) It is when they are safely behind a keyboard that they choose to be obnoxious and rude.
Others can disagree but I simply do not find it entertaining to read insults directed at me or others. I try to be friendly and respectful to others and expect the same.
Some or this reminds me of the middle school bully that picks on the easy target and others side with the bully by laughing and encouraging the crappy behavior mainly because they are relieved not to be the victim. The same answer then as now...the bully can kiss my a$$.
You are wise.
I guess the point is that I did not feel safe behind the keyboard when Fec was doing this.
And the bully analogy is spot-on.
I think if there was a clear victim in this case, there might be more noise on the blogs.
The fact is that both participants have a history of lashing out at anyone who disagrees with them, and the exchange that led to the present circumstances appears to have occurred with the willing participation of both parties.
In fact, one of the participants is STILL obsessing over it.
I would have expected more local noise about this for the reasons you state, Marshall, but I suspect also that some are smarter than me and realize that any mention of the topic is likely to result in a slew of comments from at least one participant that is predictable and tiresome and they don't want their forums to be used as another venue for the matter to continue. I also think that other bloggers probably think both parties are at fault to a large degree.
I blogged on it because I think it was a milestone in local blogging and I could not ignore the spectacle of how it escalated. I think that does have some value, and I suspect some of the "bigger names" may offer their input very shortly. The end result may be that both participants get banned from commenting on any blogs if only for the purpose of preventing such occurrences in the future.
The exchange simply rolled over into two many blogs and I for one have decided not to allow my blog to be used for that purpose.
...sorry for the delay in posting comments...was out of town.
No problem, MeB. I've been on-the-road alot myself this weekend.
Hi Spag, "one of the participants" here. I see you noticed that somebody else was commenting.
Spare us the sanctimony. You put up a post and expressed your uninformed opinion.
You're miffed because "one of the participants" isn't allowing the empty hot-air to linger in the air un-challenged.
You're the lawyer in this bunch and you (of all people) should know that it's best to wait until you know all the facts before you comment.
And you don't know them.
I wonder how you would react if what was done to me had been done to you?
I expect there are several people in the GSO blogosphere with a HUGE vested interest in portraying this thing as just a silly "blog-war" between two "crazies" . . . as opposed to a crime perpetrated by one blogger on other bloggers.
You'll notice the plural.
The exchange rolled over onto Joe Guarino's blog because I had the presence of mind to BLOG THE CRIME AS IT WAS HAPPENING. Real time.
You also have a CONFESSION online by the perpetrator. But don't let a little thing like FACTS get in your way.
So yeah, I guess you could call it a "milestone".
It's also a little thing called evidence.
Sam, Thanks for carrying this topic to your blog as I agree it has the potential of being important.
Some have said that folks need thicker skin. I enjoy a heated and spirited debate as much as anyone.
What do the insults bring to the topic?
Humor for some I guess....different strokes....but where is the line or where should the line be. Has the line been crossed this time? I have no idea but am interested in the outcome as it may impact how blogging moves forward.
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